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[komaalrani]

Just one line ro prove even courts are in confusion on this matter.

They call veginal sex as natural, while anal as unnatural.

I'm not advocating anything here, but naturally sex/relation is made only by 2 opposites. And current flows from one side to another.

No situation has changed after supreme court judgment in Johar's case. Now homosexuality of either sex has been decriminalized. so anal sex with either gender of course both partners being adult and with mutual consent is not illegal.

Section 377 of the IPC categorised consensual sexual intercourse between same sex people as an “unnatural offence” which is “against the order of nature”. It prescribed a punishment of 10 years imprisonment. The provision is a Victorian-era law, which survived into the 21st century. Interestingly, about 123 countries around the World have never penalized or decriminalized homosexuality.

Naz Foundation (India) Trust challenged the constitutionality of Article 377 under Article 14, 15, 19 and 21 before the Delhi High Court. The Foundation contended that Section 377 reflects an antiquated understanding of the purpose of sex, namely as as means of procreation, and has no place in a modern society.

The Delhi High Court ruled in 2009 that Section 377 cannot be used to punish sex between two consenting adults – this violates the right to privacy and personal liberty under Article 21 of the Constitution. The Court held that classifying and targeting homosexuals violates the equal protection guarantee under Article 14 of the Constitution.

The Supreme Court on January 5th, 2018, formed a Constitution Bench to hear the challenge to Section 377 in a comprehensive manner, even though the curative petitions were pending before the Court.

On September 6th, 2018 the five-judge Bench partially struck down Section 377 of the Indian Penal Code, decriminalising same-sex relations between consenting adults. LGBT individuals are now legally allowed to engage in consensual intercourse. The Court has upheld provisions in Section 377 that criminalise non-consensual acts or sexual acts performed on animals.

The judgment unanimously cited fundamental rights violations in reading down Section 377. They found that Section 377 discriminates against individuals on the basis of their sexual orientation and/or gender identity, violating Articles 14 and 15 of the Constitution. Further, they ruled that Section 377 violates the rights to life, dignity and autonomy of personal choice under Article 21. Finally, they found that it inhibits an LGBT individual’s ability to fully realize their identity, by violating the right to freedom of expression under Article 19(1)(a).

so legal position now is penetrative anal intercourse between two consenting adults, male or female is not illegal as held by Supreme Court on 6th September 2018. However, non-consenting sex or sex with animals is still called unnatural.

 

[komaalrani]

Sahi he. Me bhi manti hu

like many things in life sex is a matter of perception and how one looks at life, sab najariye ka savaal hai. jo alag alag logon ka alag hoga, kisi ko kuch aaccha lagega kisi ko kcuh lekin jahan tak kanoon ka savaal hai 2018 ke baad se anal intercourse between same sex or different sexes ( male enjoyinga anal with a female) is not illegal as the law has been changed by the Supreme Court jabtak dono parties raji hai aur adult hain.

han jis ko jo pasand aaye lekin ab LGBT couple ke upar koyi kanooni karyvaahi nahi ho skati hai .

supreme court ke order ko upar ke post men vistara se ilkha hai

 

[Shetan]

like many things in life sex is a matter of perception and how one looks at life, sab najariye ka savaal hai. jo alag alag logon ka alag hoga, kisi ko kuch aaccha lagega kisi ko kcuh lekin jahan tak kanoon ka savaal hai 2018 ke baad se anal intercourse between same sex or different sexes ( male enjoyinga anal with a female) is not illegal as the law has been changed by the Supreme Court jabtak dono parties raji hai aur adult hain.

han jis ko jo pasand aaye lekin ab LGBT couple ke upar koyi kanooni karyvaahi nahi ho skati hai .

supreme court ke order ko upar ke post men vistara se ilkha hai

ha me is se bhi sahemat hu. agar koi ek saman ya viprit marji ke mutabik sambhog karna chahte ho to kisi ko apati honi bhi nahi chahiye. adalat ne bahot hi sahi niranay liya he.

marji ke mutabik na hona. bate tak ko balatkar mana jaega.

 

[Riky007]

No situation has changed after supreme court judgment in Johar's case. Now homosexuality of either sex has been decriminalized. so anal sex with either gender of course both partners being adult and with mutual consent is not illegal.

Section 377 of the IPC categorised consensual sexual intercourse between same sex people as an “unnatural offence” which is “against the order of nature”. It prescribed a punishment of 10 years imprisonment. The provision is a Victorian-era law, which survived into the 21st century. Interestingly, about 123 countries around the World have never penalized or decriminalized homosexuality.

Naz Foundation (India) Trust challenged the constitutionality of Article 377 under Article 14, 15, 19 and 21 before the Delhi High Court. The Foundation contended that Section 377 reflects an antiquated understanding of the purpose of sex, namely as as means of procreation, and has no place in a modern society.

The Delhi High Court ruled in 2009 that Section 377 cannot be used to punish sex between two consenting adults – this violates the right to privacy and personal liberty under Article 21 of the Constitution. The Court held that classifying and targeting homosexuals violates the equal protection guarantee under Article 14 of the Constitution.

The Supreme Court on January 5th, 2018, formed a Constitution Bench to hear the challenge to Section 377 in a comprehensive manner, even though the curative petitions were pending before the Court.

On September 6th, 2018 the five-judge Bench partially struck down Section 377 of the Indian Penal Code, decriminalising same-sex relations between consenting adults. LGBT individuals are now legally allowed to engage in consensual intercourse. The Court has upheld provisions in Section 377 that criminalise non-consensual acts or sexual acts performed on animals.

The judgment unanimously cited fundamental rights violations in reading down Section 377. They found that Section 377 discriminates against individuals on the basis of their sexual orientation and/or gender identity, violating Articles 14 and 15 of the Constitution. Further, they ruled that Section 377 violates the rights to life, dignity and autonomy of personal choice under Article 21. Finally, they found that it inhibits an LGBT individual’s ability to fully realize their identity, by violating the right to freedom of expression under Article 19(1)(a).

so legal position now is penetrative anal intercourse between two consenting adults, male or female is not illegal as held by Supreme Court on 6th September 2018. However, non-consenting sex or sex with animals is still called unnatural.

There was nothing to write so long sister.

In legal terms only veginal sex is called natural, and all other ways are unnatural. I'm not talking about legality, I'm talking about the terminology used in legal field.

And it is all over the world

 

[komaalrani]

There was nothing to write so long sister.

In legal terms only veginal sex is called natural, and all other ways are unnatural. I'm not talking about legality, I'm talking about the terminology used in legal field.

And it is all over the world

NO Sir, You are WRONG. let us get back to basics, what is leagl and who determines what is legal.

what you said was absolutely true till 2018 before the judgement in Navtej Joahr by the Supreme Court but after that legal position is changed.

In the case of India the supreme law is Constitution of India and let me quote from Article 141 of Indian Constitution.

Doctrine of Precedent (Article 141)​

Art. 141 of the Indian Constitution states that “law declared by Supreme Court to be binding on all courts within territory of India.”

Therefore what is ' legal' or ' Illegal' is determined by the supreme court of India and is binding in entire India.

Now after 2018 Supreme Court made changes in the section 377 and has struck down most of the section 377 of IPC which dealt with the ' Unnatural sex"

Now only unnatural sex is sex with animals or what is called bestiality.

https://indiankanoon.org/doc/168671544/

This is the link for the entire judgement.

History owes an apology to the members of this community and their families, for the delay in providing redressal for the ignominy and ostracism that they have suffered through the centuries. The members of this community were compelled to live a life full of fear of reprisal and persecution. This was on account of the ignorance of the majority to recognise that homosexuality is a completely natural condition, part of a range of human sexuality. The mis-application of this provision denied them the Fundamental Right to equality guaranteed by Article 14. It infringed the Fundamental Right to non-discrimination under Article 15, and the Fundamental Right to live a life of dignity and privacy guaranteed by Article

21. The LGBT persons deserve to live a life unshackled from the shadow of being ‘unapprehended felons’.

That is how the judgement concludes,

so Supreme Court has clearly held homosexuality is consenting adults is not unnatural or illegal.

Please go through the links i am sharing,

Case Summary: Navtej Singh Johar v. Union of India thr. Secretary Ministry of Law and Justice - LawLex.Org

This post is written by Arohi Ambade, a second-year law student of Maharashtra National Law University, Nagpur. Title of the Case: Navtej Singh Johar v Union of India Citation: AIR 2018 SC 4321 Court: Supreme Court of India Bench: Chief Justice Dipak Misra, Justice A.M. Khanwilkar, Justice...

lawlex.org

https://translaw.clpr.org.in/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Navtej-Johar-v.-Union-of-India.pdf

or just google Navtej Singh Jauhar case and you will know the latest legal position as decided by the Supreme Court in 2018.

Our perceptions may vary but as per Art 141 of Indian Constitution Law is what Supreme court says, it is.

so kindly post your respond after going through the supreme court judgement on section 377.

 

[SPHINX PHOENIX]

baat ki Ek baat.
Khel jab Lund aur Gaand ka hain,
Jo marji aur jaha marji ghusao.
Whether it's Vagina Or Ass-Hole.
What matters and will always matter is the Hole.

 

[komaalrani]

baat ki Ek baat.
Khel jab Lund aur Gaand ka hain,
Jo marji aur jaha marji ghusao.
Whether it's Vagina Or Ass-Hole.
What matters and will always matter is the Hole.

Yess That is HOLE STORY

 

[Riky007]

NO Sir, You are WRONG. let us get back to basics, what is leagl and who determines what is legal.

what you said was absolutely true till 2018 before the judgement in Navtej Joahr by the Supreme Court but after that legal position is changed.

In the case of India the supreme law is Constitution of India and let me quote from Article 141 of Indian Constitution.

Doctrine of Precedent (Article 141)​

Art. 141 of the Indian Constitution states that “law declared by Supreme Court to be binding on all courts within territory of India.”

Therefore what is ' legal' or ' Illegal' is determined by the supreme court of India and is binding in entire India.

Now after 2018 Supreme Court made changes in the section 377 and has struck down most of the section 377 of IPC which dealt with the ' Unnatural sex"

Now only unnatural sex is sex with animals or what is called bestiality.

https://indiankanoon.org/doc/168671544/

This is the link for the entire judgement.

History owes an apology to the members of this community and their families, for the delay in providing redressal for the ignominy and ostracism that they have suffered through the centuries. The members of this community were compelled to live a life full of fear of reprisal and persecution. This was on account of the ignorance of the majority to recognise that homosexuality is a completely natural condition, part of a range of human sexuality. The mis-application of this provision denied them the Fundamental Right to equality guaranteed by Article 14. It infringed the Fundamental Right to non-discrimination under Article 15, and the Fundamental Right to live a life of dignity and privacy guaranteed by Article

21. The LGBT persons deserve to live a life unshackled from the shadow of being ‘unapprehended felons’.

That is how the judgement concludes,

so Supreme Court has clearly held homosexuality is consenting adults is not unnatural or illegal.

Please go through the links i am sharing,

Case Summary: Navtej Singh Johar v. Union of India thr. Secretary Ministry of Law and Justice - LawLex.Org

This post is written by Arohi Ambade, a second-year law student of Maharashtra National Law University, Nagpur. Title of the Case: Navtej Singh Johar v Union of India Citation: AIR 2018 SC 4321 Court: Supreme Court of India Bench: Chief Justice Dipak Misra, Justice A.M. Khanwilkar, Justice...

lawlex.org

https://translaw.clpr.org.in/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Navtej-Johar-v.-Union-of-India.pdf

or just google Navtej Singh Jauhar case and you will know the latest legal position as decided by the Supreme Court in 2018.

Our perceptions may vary but as per Art 141 of Indian Constitution Law is what Supreme court says, it is.

so kindly post your respond after going through the supreme court judgement on section 377.

You still did not get me.

Suppose man rapes a man, the offence would still be termed as unnatural forceful intercourse, and not just forceful intercourse.

While with women, where it is done st both end, would be termed as intercourse both unnatural and forceful

 

[komaalrani]

You still did not get me.

Suppose man rapes a man, the offence would still be termed as unnatural forceful intercourse, and not just forceful intercourse.

While with women, where it is done st both end, would be termed as intercourse both unnatural and forceful

there is no diffference an anal rape can be done with female too. a rape is rape, and is tried under section 375 of Indian Penal code. Before 2018, even if it consensual a person could be tried for anal intercourse with either male or female. a female could be tried for lesbian relationship.

so when we are using a term ' Legal" it has to be understood with the backdrop of articles of Indian Constitution ( Art 141), Indian Penal code ( section 375 and section 377) and supreme court judgments.

so please just google Navtej Jauhar and things will be clearer.

As i explained earlier let us get rid of the word 'unnatural'. Now the rule is a sex with consent or with an under age person or an animal is a punsihable offence under section 377. If a same sex happens with the consent and both partners are adult it will not attract section 377.

Therefore, after navatej jauhhar jadgment the two key words for sex between same gender persons are CONSENT and ADULT.